Whitney would be very close to if not 14, ft. I think this what the NGS is indicating on its data sheet, the data sheet everybody seems to quote from. So lets be confident in the 14, ft. Mike Bartling not verified October 2, - pm Permalink.
Discussions regarding the height of Mt. Whitney or for any peak must take into account the order or degree of accuracy of the survey disc. For example, and this is a fact, vertical control markers and their orders not to be confused with vertical angle have precedents over horizontal control markers regarding height.
Survey disc GTO is a third order vertical control and is therefore a highly accurate vertical control marker. If this is not the case, then all the other elevations on Whitney come into question. GTO is one of the most accurate markers regarding height but not all that accurate regarding horizontal control.
But who really cares about horizontal control measurements when the discussion is about the height of a prominent mountain. Horizontal control is not as accurate as vertical control.
Yes there are other vertical control markers on Whitney, but they are crowed together in a small area away from GTO and of course not as high. It would be best for these discussions regarding the height of Mt. Whitney to take into consideration the various geodetic controls and their accuracy. Again, no mention is made in your article of survey marker GTO, which indicates 14, Mike Barting not verified October 3, - am Permalink.
You need to add disc marker GTO to your discussion. Its data sheet reads, 14, This elevation should mean something being an order 3 vertical control marker. I have gotten different stories regarding the ft elevation. One story, as referred to above, is that is the average elevation between markers why would an average be taken?
Confusing stuff. The other story I got from someone in the USGS is that the marker for the elevation was destroyed. Because of this, USGS had to use another marker one foot lower! The only way to resolve the growing confusion over the true elevation for Mt. Whitney is to place a GPS station on the truly highest point on a rock not surveyor disc on Whitney.
This was never fully done, despite the article about the surveyor measuring the 4 highest summits in California by GPS. This is my last entry. Will Tate not verified August 9, - pm Permalink. The conspiracy continues. You must have JavaScript enabled to use this form. Your name. What code is in the image? Like most eastern Sierra ascents this one starts out tame and ends up tough. Whitney Portal is also very similar to the famed French climb of the Madeleine. It twists and turns through an otherworldly landscape known as the Alabama Hills, a set of bizarrely constructed rock piles, before setting on a fairly straight shot for the foothills of Mount Whitney.
The vistas change dramatically as you draw closer to the mountains, seeming more and more massive until suddenly they overwhelm you, and you're a part of them, looking back down on the road, the hills, and the Owens Valley.
In other words, there's plenty of time to think about what you're getting yourself into. It is a great and difficult climb out of the high desert up towards Mount Whitney, the highest mountain in the lower Pic: James Hatton.
To use information contained on this site is to do so at your own risk. The website is for information purposes only and we assume no liability for decisions made as a result of the information provided here. You are still completely responsible for your decisions, your actions, and your safety. Share YOUR roads! We've more than We want your experiences too! Do you know any spectacular road? We camped at Trail Camp night 1.
We were aware that a storm was approaching and would hit the following night. The winds hit about 8pm night one and proceeded to batter our tent all night. More than a few people lost their tents the following morning and had their belongings scattered around camp when the returned from the peak.
We had our tent nailed down with spikes and still had to put a 50lbs rock in our tent any time we left it. When we took down the tent, we found that all the tent spikes were bent from the relentless wind. It was pretty cold too. Probably about at camp and at summit. We started our second day at 6am and were halfway up the switchbacks for the incredible sunrise.
The wind increased in intensity as we climbed the 99 switchbacks and beyond to the summit, but the experience and views were killer. We took it slowly and summited that morning around 10AM, then high tailed it out of there just before the storm hit. Altogether, the trip was so awesome, beautiful and had wide variety of different landscapes. There were pines, lakes, valleys, groves, and incredible rock formations.
The higher you went, the more out of this world the landscape and rocks got. Started at noon slept in, opps. We hiked up to Trail camp first night and arrived around 6pm. Woke am to Summit from Trail camp. John Muir Crest to Summit at top was at least mph winds, hold on tight, summit with windchill feels about degrees. All in all was an absolutely awe inspiring experience … 2nd time submitting in winter.
Next time I will aim for summer, 1day summit, thus requiring fewer layers, way less gear. Tiene unas vistas espectaculares, totalmente recomendado pero prepararse bien. The ice on the trail starts around lone pine lake spots and consistent snow started around mirror lake. There were probably 20 mph wind gusts that made hiking miserable along with the cold temperatures. We had crampons and poles which are a must if attempting to summit.
Planning to do a overnight trip next year when conditions are better. Good luck!! I was there backpacking on Oct 29thst. Was hit with some pretty cold weather in the 20s and very windy. Only made it to trail camp. Than stayed at lone pine lake the 2nd night.
There is a lot of snow up there and it does slow you down a lot. Most of the snow is compacted. Need microspikes for sure and gaiters. It was a very Happy Halloween indeed. We left around am, summited around pm, and made it back to our car around pm. As another comment mentioned, the 1. It was a crazy intense hike, but so rewarding and beautiful with the snow. When you crest and see the Sequoia mountains … breathtakingly beautiful.
The switchbacks were a combo of soft snow and packed ice, so we hiked very slowly on the switchbacks because we had to be so careful with our footing. We averaged about 1 mph the whole time due to the snow. Around 15 people summited that day. We saw some groups turn back at the switchbacks, so there were more people on the trail, just not at the summit.
Be safe out there! Crampons and poles are necessary. Switchbacks can be sketchy at times so we took it slow going up and down.
We started at AM and got back to the parking lot at PM We spent 1hr and 45mins at the summit. The weather was perfect because we had clear skies and hardly encountered any wind, it was cold of course, but a beautiful day nonetheless. It took us 9 hrs to reach the summit, and 10 hours to get back because my husband hurt his ankle. We read that the lakes at the top were frozen, so we took plenty of water 3L will do the trick if you do the hike in a single day.
The trail was pretty icy and slippery at around mile 3… we all slipped at some point during the hike. The switchbacks were filled with ice and to be honest, the cables there will not save anyone who accidentally slips. From this point on the trail gets more difficult and dangerous until about a mile after the John Muir sign. Good luck everyone! We would not have been able to continue were it not for the tracks of other hikers and the hard packed snow that held our weight.
Multiple sections on switchbacks were definitely dicey but again, the hard snow helped us out. Hit the cables by 6am and made the summit by 10am. The descent was much more treacherous as we set off at am. Got to the cables around 3pm and the snow the whole way was much softer and shelving off rather treacherously underfoot. I think our pace was 0. I was also dealing with a sprained ankle so getting back was difficult. By 5pm we still had 4 miles to go to the trailhead and conditions were much icier the whole way back.
Made it back to the car at pm pretty much delirious. It was an experience of a lifetime but it was very taxing both physically and mentally.
Made it to Trail Camp. Set up camp there, very windy until about 1hr after sunset. Didn't think I'd have time to summit, so played it safe and came down in the morning.
For my first backpacking trip, this was amazing. Microspikes and poles were the key for me. We made it about 1 mile past Trail Crest. The summit was a little over a mile away but we made the decision to turn back.
The back side was completely covered in snow. There were areas that we had to pass of just ice and it just became unsafe. The wind kicked up and we were getting blasted with snow and sliding in most areas. Our group of 7 left at and made it to trail camp by However, once we got to slightly past the cables the amount of snow and ice seemed too dangerous for our group to attempt, we made it to about ft before turning around. We did encounter several individuals that had ice axes and they continued on.
I went on Oct 31 just got off the trail. Also know that the snowy trail is going to slow you down some and take more energy away from you. Spent an hour up there which was beautiful not windy at all just blistering cold. Left the trail camp at and made it to the parking lot by 6. We left at am and our group of 3 made it up the first of the switchbacks and just past the cables at 12pm.
We had microspikes and poles throughout the entire hike and would not have made it even close if not for those items. We were with their other friends that turned around at the cables due to the conditions. We tried to summit on 28th of October in one day. There were plenty of snow starting from Lone Pine Lake, which started melting when the sun was shining and freezing in the dusk. The weather was pleasant during the day, no strong winds, no snowfalls.
The snow was getting dipper closer to Consultation Lake and 99 switchbacks. We stopped at m in the middle of switchbacks and turned back, cause the snow became deeper on the trail, approx one mile from the Trail Crest.
Trail is snowy but it is packed down and as long as you have crampons you should be good! My permit was for the 25th, but due to the snowstorm. I didnt go. I tried to go up today, the 26th, got up to lone pine lake to test it out, lone pine has about a foot of snow.
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